Considering Ace Discourse: What Makes Us LGBT+?

I occasionally dabble in ace discourse.

For those who are unaware, “ace discourse” refers to the current ongoing struggle between those who believe that asexualiy is a marginalized group under the LGBT+ umbrella and those who believe that asexuality itself does not make you part of our community.

I am not ace myself. I am a self-identified queer, as trans and pansexual (or bisexual, I do not care too much either way as to the term you use) as they come. But I dabble, and I watch, and I feel as if the real problem isn’t the issue of whether or not asexuals are oppressed. The real issue is that inclusion in the LGBT+ community was never based on oppression, but based on the uniform thread of difference in regards to either gender or sexuality that unites us all. Which, in my opinion, an asexual person falls under.

Why do I care? Because it is the same sort of mentality that made people want to kick out the “T” from LGBT less than a year ago. It was an issue that was seriously discussed. Celebrities were interviewed. We were never kicked out, and it never even came close, but the fact that it was an issue that was even discussed, disgusted me.

The marginalization argument is bunk. Nobody is pointing to Ellen and saying she does not belong with us, despite the fact that it is highly unlikely that she is as marginalized as an asexual individual living under a culture which still practices arranged marriage.

So ultimately, what does it mean to be LGBT+? Why do we feel the need to exclude certain people and include others?

Note: This article is abbreviated and will most likely be continued at a later date. A link to the updated, continued article will be posted here when it is written and published.

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5 thoughts on “Considering Ace Discourse: What Makes Us LGBT+?

  1. I identify as asexual but not LGBTQ+ at all. The LGBT community just doesn’t support our issues and there’s a lot of hostility towards aces from that group. I feel like we should be a part of that group, but until they start giving a damn about our issues I will not say I’m LGBT, even though I support their cause.

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  2. I think it’s a victim mentality. People who see themselves as victims often want it understood that their suffering is greater and more significant. When concepts like ‘cis’, ‘monosexual’ and ‘allosexual’ are discussed, even in a calm, mostly theoretical way, it’s taken as a threat.

    There’s no question that gay males have suffered terribly over the centuries in a very visible way. That the suffering of others has been largely invisible should not lessen the significance.

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      1. Agree completely. I was looking at some ‘discourse’ on Tumblr the other day and was dismayed to see just how hateful it is, and even to see bisexual people attacking asexual people (I’m more used to seeing asexual and bisexual people supporting each other).

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